Surrey travel cards motion agreed

By Local Democracy Reporting Service

12th Oct 2023 | Local News

Surrey councillors will push for a zone six extension and government intervention in the proposals to get rid of day travelcards in to London. (Photo: Emily Coady-Stemp)
Surrey councillors will push for a zone six extension and government intervention in the proposals to get rid of day travelcards in to London. (Photo: Emily Coady-Stemp)

More than 60 Surrey train stations would be impacted if plans to abolish day travelcards go ahead, in a move that has been put forward to raise money for Transport for London (TfL).

Surrey councillors will push for a zone six extension and government intervention in the proposals to get rid of day travelcards in to London.

A Surrey County Council meeting on Tuesday 10 October agreed to write to the Secretary of State for Transport, Mark Harper, to ask him to intervene in the matter.

The council will also request a joint meeting with the Department for Transport and TfL to look at extending zone six further in to Surrey, and will call on Sadiq Khan to withdraw plans to remove day travelcards.

TfL gave notice that it planned to withdraw from a funding agreement with train operators which covers the tickets, which it claims leaves the operator "effectively under-funded" at a cost of around £40m a year.

If day travelcards are withdrawn, it will mean Surrey residents would need to buy separate tickets for rail travel and TfL journeys, with one councillor claiming families would pay 16 per cent more for their tickets and individuals seven per cent more.

Cllr Matt Furniss (Conservative, Shalford) said day travelcards helped avoid higher fares when travelling in and around London, and said ensuring public transport was affordable and accessible to all should be a priority both for the council and the London Assembly.

Cllr Furniss told the meeting: "There's an invisible wall that has been drawn around London at this time by the Mayor of London.

"It is a boundary to restrict the freedom of movement across an administrative boundary which is affecting families from both inside and outside London."

He said disability groups had raised concerns about the impact on people with disabilities if the travelcards were scrapped, raising concerns about time limits and contactless payments.

Of the possible price rises, he said: "In the midst of a cost of living and climate challenge, these rises will be too much to bear for many."

He said that rather than "filling the gap in TfL's coffers", the plans could actually have a negative impact on TfL's income stream and called for more integrated ticketing, rather than a reduction.

Cllr Furniss had put forward a motion to write to the London Mayor about the issue, but an amendment was put forward by the Green group leader on the council to include writing to the secretary of state on the matter.

Cllr Jonathan Essex (Redhill East) pointed out central government funding reductions which he said left TfL "over-dependent" on ticket revenue to fund its transport services.

He said TfL now received "less revenue support from government than any comparable world city". 

But he added that any future talks needed to be open and transparent.

Cllr Essex told the meeting: "We must make sure there's greater transparency and accountability than these cloak and dagger talks to date, where we haven't been part of the talks but neither even have been the Greater London Authority.

"Not included. We should be going forward."

With cross-party support, the Lib Dem group leader called it "ridiculous" that already you could use your oyster or debit card to leave trains at Surbiton but not at Woking, and that residents didn't understand the difference.

Cllr Will Forster (Woking South) added: "TfL is being asked to do a lot with very little.

"London as a global city is not funded the way other global cities are funded.

"Over 70 per cent of the cost of travel in London is having to be funded from the fare, whereas in Paris it is not even 30 per cent."

The meeting also heard that with a deadline of January for when the changes came in, there was not a lot of time to arrange talks to try to halt them.

Cllr Jeremy Webster (Conservative, Caterham Hill) said in total there were 84 railway stations in Surrey, and that most of these would be affected by the planned scrapping of day travelcards.

He added: "The impact of this is substantial.

"My belief is it's a discriminatory action against the elderly, disabled, families, children and those on low incomes.

"This is because large numbers of people do not have access to modern technology or a bank card. My 75-year-old brother fits this category."

Stations in the TfL zones

  • Whyteleafe
  • Whyteleafe South
  • Upper Warlingham
  • Caterham
  • Chipstead
  • Kingswood
  • Tadworth
  • Tattenham Corner
  • Epsom Downs
  • Banstead
  • Ewell East
  • Ewell West
  • Stoneleigh
  • Hampton Court
  • Thames Ditton

In Oyster/contactless but outside TfL zones

  • Merstham
  • Redhill
  • Earlswood
  • Salfords
  • Horley
  • Epsom

The full list of 63 Surrey stations affected by the changes would be:

Addlestone, Ash, Ash Vale, Ashford (Surrey), Ashtead, Bagshot, Betchworth, Bookham, Box Hill & Westhumble, Brookwood, Byfleet & New Haw, Camberley, Chertsey, Chilworth, Clandon, Claygate, Cobham & Stoke d'Abernon, Dorking Deepdene, Dorking, Dorking West, Dormans, Effingham Junction, Egham, Esher, Farncombe, Farnham, Frimley, Godalming, Godstone, Gomshall, Guildford, Haslemere, Hersham, Hinchley Wood, Holmwood, Horsley, Hurst Green, Kempton Park, Leatherhead, Lingfield, London Road (Guildford), Longcross, Milford, North Camp, Nutfield, Ockley, Oxshott, Oxted, Reigate, Shalford, Shepperton, Staines, Sunbury (Surrey), Upper Halliford, Virginia Water, Walton-on-Thames, Wanborough, West Byfleet, Weybridge, Witley, Woking, Woldingham, Worplesdon

A TfL spokesperson previously said: "This is the first stage in a process and there are no changes to tickets at this time.

"This is an operational decision that has been taken now to ensure that TfL meets the requirements of its funding agreement, but TfL continues to look for alternative options."

     

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